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	<title>Comments on: Stay on Target</title>
	<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/</link>
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		<title>By: E</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2772</link>
		<author>E</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2772</guid>
					<description>wow that is some post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow that is some post&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2773</link>
		<author>Oscar</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2773</guid>
					<description>Well done.  Digg it.</description>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2774</link>
		<author>justin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2774</guid>
					<description>you are a god among people who think they are gods</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are a god among people who think they are gods</p>
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		<title>By: casey kochmer</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2777</link>
		<author>casey kochmer</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2777</guid>
					<description>You missed:

Republicans want you to forget that we each have the power to stand up and make a difference...


&lt;a href="http://www.personaltao.com/tao/freedom.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Freedom by Action&lt;/a&gt;. 

Peace by being.

Time to act and rebuild America to truly be free!

Casey

 ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed:</p>
<p>Republicans want you to forget that we each have the power to stand up and make a difference&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.personaltao.com/tao/freedom.htm" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Freedom by Action</a>. </p>
<p>Peace by being.</p>
<p>Time to act and rebuild America to truly be free!</p>
<p>Casey</p>
<p> ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2778</link>
		<author>Nikki</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2778</guid>
					<description>Has everyone seen this Will Ferrell video.  Hillarious.  
http://tinyurl.com/yauu54</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has everyone seen this Will Ferrell video.  Hillarious.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yauu54" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://tinyurl.com/yauu54</a></p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2779</link>
		<author>brad</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2779</guid>
					<description>umm.... isn't it &lt;b&gt;Mark&lt;/b&gt; Foley, not Tom Foley? Tom Foley was a democrat, from washington state, who hasn't been in congress for a few years now.


from the original message:

"...Congress has no authority over private citizens so now &lt;b&gt;Tom&lt;/b&gt; Foley cannot be prosecuted."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm&#8230;. isn&#8217;t it <b>Mark</b> Foley, not Tom Foley? Tom Foley was a democrat, from washington state, who hasn&#8217;t been in congress for a few years now.</p>
<p>from the original message:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Congress has no authority over private citizens so now <b>Tom</b> Foley cannot be prosecuted.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pollywogs! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This is an excellent, excellent resource:</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2780</link>
		<author>Pollywogs! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This is an excellent, excellent resource:</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2780</guid>
					<description>[...] http://www.eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://www.eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/&nbsp;" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">http://www.eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/&nbsp;</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Huffman</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2781</link>
		<author>Keith Huffman</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2781</guid>
					<description>Wasn't the Vietnam War started by a Democrat?  It was Kennedy who sent the first troops into Vietnam.  While I love this post, and I love the fact that it is so true, I still know that not all wars were started by Repbulicans since WWII either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t the Vietnam War started by a Democrat?  It was Kennedy who sent the first troops into Vietnam.  While I love this post, and I love the fact that it is so true, I still know that not all wars were started by Repbulicans since WWII either.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam (UK)</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2782</link>
		<author>Sam (UK)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2782</guid>
					<description>Nice, would love to see the Republicans list about the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, would love to see the Republicans list about the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: BootheNet.com - Boothe Family Community Weblog &#187; 11 Things Republican&#8217;s want you to forget.</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2783</link>
		<author>BootheNet.com - Boothe Family Community Weblog &#187; 11 Things Republican&#8217;s want you to forget.</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2783</guid>
					<description>[...] 11 Things Republican&#8217;s want you to forget.   By Chris I found this on Digg, I repeat it here simply because the site has so many hits it crashed, but the original post is located here for posterity: http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 11 Things Republican&#8217;s want you to forget.   By Chris I found this on Digg, I repeat it here simply because the site has so many hits it crashed, but the original post is located here for posterity: <a href="http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Viper_iii</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2784</link>
		<author>Viper_iii</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2784</guid>
					<description>Republicans want you to forget that the US is Free and you should be Controlled by Large Government.  Whoops.... That is Democrats... Social Programs that Cost too much to manage because of political Rackets.  

Welfare, Medicare, Social Security.  I pay into this and I only get 1500 a month?  For the few years I live in my golden years!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans want you to forget that the US is Free and you should be Controlled by Large Government.  Whoops&#8230;. That is Democrats&#8230; Social Programs that Cost too much to manage because of political Rackets.  </p>
<p>Welfare, Medicare, Social Security.  I pay into this and I only get 1500 a month?  For the few years I live in my golden years!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2785</link>
		<author>Tom</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2785</guid>
					<description>I had no idea that Harry Truman (Korean War) and John Kennedy (Vietnam) were republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea that Harry Truman (Korean War) and John Kennedy (Vietnam) were republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: nope</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2787</link>
		<author>nope</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2787</guid>
					<description>I'm sensing a little bias... maybe not... it's a little difficult to detect. a little...

Interesting points; a little redundant. Lacks originality. Good try though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sensing a little bias&#8230; maybe not&#8230; it&#8217;s a little difficult to detect. a little&#8230;</p>
<p>Interesting points; a little redundant. Lacks originality. Good try though.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2788</link>
		<author>Doug</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2788</guid>
					<description>Don't forget that they voted not to raise the min. wage but voted themselves a huge pay increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that they voted not to raise the min. wage but voted themselves a huge pay increase.</p>
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		<title>By: What Republicans want you to forget - and excellent list at drunkenyeti</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2789</link>
		<author>What Republicans want you to forget - and excellent list at drunkenyeti</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2789</guid>
					<description>[...] Since Eight and Five is getting the crap beat out of it from digg.com, I&#8217;m taking the liberty of mirroring (basically) the entire post here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Since Eight and Five is getting the crap beat out of it from digg.com, I&#8217;m taking the liberty of mirroring (basically) the entire post here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: foo.c</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2790</link>
		<author>foo.c</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2790</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

The horror!

Seriously, if you're counting on Social Security for retirement you need your head examined.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>The horror!</p>
<p>Seriously, if you&#8217;re counting on Social Security for retirement you need your head examined.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2791</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2791</guid>
					<description>Thanks Brad, my mistake.  We have it corrected.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Begley</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2792</link>
		<author>Paul Begley</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2792</guid>
					<description>Two words:  Terri Schiavo 

What a disgrace, to turn her personal tragedy into a national political circus and media event.  

The post-mortum also proved that she had  catastrophic brain damage.

Rick Santorum is about to get spanked over this in PA.  Who else was at her bedside?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words:  Terri Schiavo </p>
<p>What a disgrace, to turn her personal tragedy into a national political circus and media event.  </p>
<p>The post-mortum also proved that she had  catastrophic brain damage.</p>
<p>Rick Santorum is about to get spanked over this in PA.  Who else was at her bedside?</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2793</link>
		<author>Max</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2793</guid>
					<description>Well, the list starts out badly. If you read the New York Times this week they are all upset about the public availability of documents from Saddam's nuclear weapons program. Yeah, they found a really left handed way of acknowledging Saddam was working on an atomic bomb and was less than a year away from having the bomb.

When you've lost the New York Times, you have lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the list starts out badly. If you read the New York Times this week they are all upset about the public availability of documents from Saddam&#8217;s nuclear weapons program. Yeah, they found a really left handed way of acknowledging Saddam was working on an atomic bomb and was less than a year away from having the bomb.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;ve lost the New York Times, you have lost.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2794</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2794</guid>
					<description>"STAY ON TARGET"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;STAY ON TARGET&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GOPclown</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2795</link>
		<author>GOPclown</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2795</guid>
					<description>America entered the Vietnam war under Presiden Eisenhower, a Republican.</description>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2796</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2796</guid>
					<description>That article lists pre-1991 data.  Your mis-remembering history.  It's OK.

The truthiness is out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That article lists pre-1991 data.  Your mis-remembering history.  It&#8217;s OK.</p>
<p>The truthiness is out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2798</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2798</guid>
					<description>Sorry, buddy, you didn't read the article closely enough. The point of the article was that Saddam stopped his nuclear program when he was asked to by the UN. And that any justification for going into Iraq for nukes was fabricated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, buddy, you didn&#8217;t read the article closely enough. The point of the article was that Saddam stopped his nuclear program when he was asked to by the UN. And that any justification for going into Iraq for nukes was fabricated.</p>
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		<title>By: Elxx.net Labs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stay on Target - What Republicans Want You to Forget</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2799</link>
		<author>Elxx.net Labs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stay on Target - What Republicans Want You to Forget</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2799</guid>
					<description>[...] http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: David R</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2800</link>
		<author>David R</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2800</guid>
					<description>Republicans want you to forget they have declared war on the middle class and hard working americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans want you to forget they have declared war on the middle class and hard working americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Parry</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2801</link>
		<author>Brian Parry</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2801</guid>
					<description>Ha! With a quick read I can already find two obvious falsehoods. One is that all wars since WWII were starte by republican presidents. Lordy. The other is that we still have to pay our bills when we file bankruptcy. Who is the joker who put together this list? Don't they understand that when you attack something by using lies then you are the one who is the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! With a quick read I can already find two obvious falsehoods. One is that all wars since WWII were starte by republican presidents. Lordy. The other is that we still have to pay our bills when we file bankruptcy. Who is the joker who put together this list? Don&#8217;t they understand that when you attack something by using lies then you are the one who is the ass.</p>
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		<title>By: David R</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2802</link>
		<author>David R</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2802</guid>
					<description>Republicans want you to forget that they have declared war on the middle class and hard working americans.</description>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2803</link>
		<author>Steven</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2803</guid>
					<description>Still, isn't the argument a little disingenuous?  After all Vietnam is probably the most significant war since WW2 and while it may have started during a Republican presidency it was heavily escalated during JFK, LBJ and RMN (who eventually pulled the US out).

Also, all this is really saying is that Clinton and Carter did not start a war.  JFK and LBJ didn't have the option since they were so entrenched in Vietnam.

So while this argument is true I have to ask what it accomplishes.  To the uninformed it suggests that the Democratic presidents were uninvolved or opposed to the war in Vietnam.  And those who are informed understand the meaninglessness of the statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, isn&#8217;t the argument a little disingenuous?  After all Vietnam is probably the most significant war since WW2 and while it may have started during a Republican presidency it was heavily escalated during JFK, LBJ and RMN (who eventually pulled the US out).</p>
<p>Also, all this is really saying is that Clinton and Carter did not start a war.  JFK and LBJ didn&#8217;t have the option since they were so entrenched in Vietnam.</p>
<p>So while this argument is true I have to ask what it accomplishes.  To the uninformed it suggests that the Democratic presidents were uninvolved or opposed to the war in Vietnam.  And those who are informed understand the meaninglessness of the statement.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin c</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2804</link>
		<author>kevin c</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2804</guid>
					<description>Well, 18 things.  Truman sent the troups into Korea but wouldn't let them fight over the 38th parallel.  Also, some might argue Johnson started 'nam but thats not really true, it was Eisenhower, really.
Even so, its' republicans who wanted this war so bad they found a guy to let them have it.
-k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, 18 things.  Truman sent the troups into Korea but wouldn&#8217;t let them fight over the 38th parallel.  Also, some might argue Johnson started &#8216;nam but thats not really true, it was Eisenhower, really.<br />
Even so, its&#8217; republicans who wanted this war so bad they found a guy to let them have it.<br />
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2805</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2805</guid>
					<description>If you had taken time to follow the link, you would have found the citation from a Rolling Stone article with a more specific accusation of Republicans:

"Every GOP administration since 1952 has let the Military-Industrial Complex loot the Treasury and plunge the nation into debt on the excuse of a wartime economic emergency."

Which is true...and I probably should have used the word "escalated" or something like instead of "started" but in the end, I think the readers get the point.

Now shut up, and STAY ON TARGET!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had taken time to follow the link, you would have found the citation from a Rolling Stone article with a more specific accusation of Republicans:</p>
<p>&#8220;Every GOP administration since 1952 has let the Military-Industrial Complex loot the Treasury and plunge the nation into debt on the excuse of a wartime economic emergency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is true&#8230;and I probably should have used the word &#8220;escalated&#8221; or something like instead of &#8220;started&#8221; but in the end, I think the readers get the point.</p>
<p>Now shut up, and STAY ON TARGET!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lantern Bearer</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2806</link>
		<author>Lantern Bearer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2806</guid>
					<description>The struggle for Viet Nam began with the Eisenhower administration.  It was part and parcel of the John Foster Dulles' policies having to do with the "Red Menace.  Military aid and and boots on the ground began with Eisenhower.  While you are checking that out (you are checking, aren't you?), look into the 1954 Allen Dulles/CIA operation to overturn the democratically elected but scary Iranian government.  Start with Kermit Roosevelt. 

Comment by Tom
2006-11-03 16:22:37

I had no idea that Harry Truman (Korean War) and John Kennedy (Vietnam) were republicans.

Lantern Bearer
Please do be attentive, be intelligent, be reasonable, be responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The struggle for Viet Nam began with the Eisenhower administration.  It was part and parcel of the John Foster Dulles&#8217; policies having to do with the &#8220;Red Menace.  Military aid and and boots on the ground began with Eisenhower.  While you are checking that out (you are checking, aren&#8217;t you?), look into the 1954 Allen Dulles/CIA operation to overturn the democratically elected but scary Iranian government.  Start with Kermit Roosevelt. </p>
<p>Comment by Tom<br />
2006-11-03 16:22:37</p>
<p>I had no idea that Harry Truman (Korean War) and John Kennedy (Vietnam) were republicans.</p>
<p>Lantern Bearer<br />
Please do be attentive, be intelligent, be reasonable, be responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: thatgirlviv &#187; British believe Bush is more dangerous than Kim Jong-il</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2808</link>
		<author>thatgirlviv &#187; British believe Bush is more dangerous than Kim Jong-il</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2808</guid>
					<description>[...] A list of all of the things republicans want you to forget when you (americans) vote on Nov. 7&#8230;read more? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A list of all of the things republicans want you to forget when you (americans) vote on Nov. 7&#8230;read more? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Lantern Bearer</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2809</link>
		<author>Lantern Bearer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2809</guid>
					<description>I have been mulling this bit around for the last several months.  I came across a book, noted below, that I purchased in a bookstore in the Ginza, Tokyo in 1968. I was just back from a short duty in Viet Nam.  I had thought that LBJ and General Dynamics fit this image but it seem that it is as appropriate today as then.  

Daniel Defoe writes of his three days in the pillory, available for public abuse but instead had flowers thrown at him and was well tended by his supporters who sold copies of this pamphlet A Hymn to the Pillory" and his other work that was cause for the punishment, "The Shortest Way with Dissenters". 

The excerpt-

“They that in, vast Employments, rob the State,
See them in &lt;i&gt;thy Embraces&lt;/i&gt;  meet their Fate;	310
Let not the Millions they by Fraud obtain,
Protect 'em from the Scandal, or the Pain:
They who from Mean Beginnings grow
To vast Estates, but God knows how;
Who carry untold Sums away,	315
From little Places, with but little Pay:
Who costly Palates Erect,
The Thieves that buds them to Protect;
The &lt;i&gt;Gardens, Grottos, Fountains, Walks, and Groves&lt;/i&gt;
Where Vice Triumphs in Pride, and Lawless Loves:	
Where mighty Luxury and Drunk'ness Reign'd
Profusely Spend what they Prophanely Gain'd
Tell 'em there's &lt;i&gt;Mene Tekel’s&lt;/i&gt; * on the Wall,
Tell 'em the &lt;i&gt;Nations Money&lt;/i&gt; paid for all:
	Advance by double Front and show,	325
And let us both the Crimes and Persons know:
Place them aloft upon thy Throne,
Who slight the Nations Business for their own;
Neglect their Posts, in spight of Double Pay,
And turn us all in Debt &lt;i&gt;the Shortest Way.&lt;/i&gt;	330”

Note

*This is the passage from Daniel regarding the hand Writing on the wall
Daniel 5:25-28

5:25 And this [is] the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. 
5:26 This [is] the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. 
5:27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. 
5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.

**  Daniel Defoe: [Defoe, Daniel], J.T. Boulton, ed. Publisher: Schocken 1965, p.106</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been mulling this bit around for the last several months.  I came across a book, noted below, that I purchased in a bookstore in the Ginza, Tokyo in 1968. I was just back from a short duty in Viet Nam.  I had thought that LBJ and General Dynamics fit this image but it seem that it is as appropriate today as then.  </p>
<p>Daniel Defoe writes of his three days in the pillory, available for public abuse but instead had flowers thrown at him and was well tended by his supporters who sold copies of this pamphlet A Hymn to the Pillory&#8221; and his other work that was cause for the punishment, &#8220;The Shortest Way with Dissenters&#8221;. </p>
<p>The excerpt-</p>
<p>“They that in, vast Employments, rob the State,<br />
See them in <i>thy Embraces</i>  meet their Fate;	310<br />
Let not the Millions they by Fraud obtain,<br />
Protect &#8216;em from the Scandal, or the Pain:<br />
They who from Mean Beginnings grow<br />
To vast Estates, but God knows how;<br />
Who carry untold Sums away,	315<br />
From little Places, with but little Pay:<br />
Who costly Palates Erect,<br />
The Thieves that buds them to Protect;<br />
The <i>Gardens, Grottos, Fountains, Walks, and Groves</i><br />
Where Vice Triumphs in Pride, and Lawless Loves:<br />
Where mighty Luxury and Drunk&#8217;ness Reign&#8217;d<br />
Profusely Spend what they Prophanely Gain&#8217;d<br />
Tell &#8216;em there&#8217;s <i>Mene Tekel’s</i> * on the Wall,<br />
Tell &#8216;em the <i>Nations Money</i> paid for all:<br />
	Advance by double Front and show,	325<br />
And let us both the Crimes and Persons know:<br />
Place them aloft upon thy Throne,<br />
Who slight the Nations Business for their own;<br />
Neglect their Posts, in spight of Double Pay,<br />
And turn us all in Debt <i>the Shortest Way.</i>	330”</p>
<p>Note</p>
<p>*This is the passage from Daniel regarding the hand Writing on the wall<br />
Daniel 5:25-28</p>
<p>5:25 And this [is] the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.<br />
5:26 This [is] the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.<br />
5:27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.<br />
5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.</p>
<p>**  Daniel Defoe: [Defoe, Daniel], J.T. Boulton, ed. Publisher: Schocken 1965, p.106</p>
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		<title>By: crave</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2810</link>
		<author>crave</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2810</guid>
					<description>Being from Australia and watching all this unfold, I cannot help but think... if the entire world's population is to vote in your mid-term elections, I have little doubt that the Democrats will win be a landslide. The terrible state of our world today is your administration's blame to keep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being from Australia and watching all this unfold, I cannot help but think&#8230; if the entire world&#8217;s population is to vote in your mid-term elections, I have little doubt that the Democrats will win be a landslide. The terrible state of our world today is your administration&#8217;s blame to keep.</p>
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		<title>By: zanothrope</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2811</link>
		<author>zanothrope</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2811</guid>
					<description>Democrats want you to forget that they do not have a single well thought out plan for solving any of the important issues today (i.e. immigration, homeland security, North Korea, social security, etc.)  Vote Constitutional Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats want you to forget that they do not have a single well thought out plan for solving any of the important issues today (i.e. immigration, homeland security, North Korea, social security, etc.)  Vote Constitutional Party.</p>
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		<title>By: ob_one</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2812</link>
		<author>ob_one</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2812</guid>
					<description>Comical... Typical rant. If there were no WMD's, why did Hussein kick out inspectors and not allow them back into Iraq? 
Rich Thugs to lie for Kerry??? What's your definition of rich? And just how poor is Dan Rather if you get my drift. 

Hmmm, it's been determined that Al Qaeda numerous other anti-west terrorist (abu Nidal for one) were given hombrage in Iraq. Nuff said on that. 
And just how are Republicans sending jobs overseas? They're not. The exodus started in the late 80's and went full steam in the nineties when liberals decided to raise corporate taxes and it also began taking longer and longer to get building permits. And since when should the government get involved telling companies how to run their business'? Why do you think business' are leaving for starters?

Truman sent troops to Korea, Kennedy sent troops (oops, advisors) to Vietnam where Johnson just plain dropped the ball. Bongo, quick interlude to give you some advice. If you're going to use Rolling Stone as your reference material, my dear adversary, you are in serious trouble or denial.
Ah, the Foley deal. I guess we conveniently forgot about Representatives Frank (D,MA) and Studds (D,NH). Franks male lover runs a gay whore house out of Franks apartment, Studds got a male page drunk and seduced him when he was 17, but by the time the house (Tip O'Neill at the gavel) censored him, the page was 18 and case dropped. And since when can't the authorities charge a private citizen. What an idiotic statement. What you're saying is a member of Congress can murder someone, resign from Congress and face no charges??? What utter bilge. The authorities in Florida are examining this case to see if there IS evidence to prosecute.
 Oh, and can anyone answer why France get's 80% of it's power from nuclear plants as does much of the developed world, yet we're at 20% (yeah, coal, LNG and propane make up the majority of the rest, not wind, geothermal, or hydro). Right now there are 30 chemical plants being built worldwide. Zero in the U.S. Hey Bongo, did you know we import gasoline, yes, GASOLINE (that's refined oil in case you're unsure) from France because went haven't built a refinery in this country since 1982. Which of course leads to blaming Republicans for the price of fuel. How patently stupid. Oil is a worldwide traded commodity, which means supply and demand sets the price, not W as some of you would like to believe. Maybe, Bongo, if you boned up on why we won't allow oil companies to exploratory drill in ANWR, you could give us an opinion on that rather than the typical blame W rant.

Have a great day... And yes, I'm voting Tuesday...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comical&#8230; Typical rant. If there were no WMD&#8217;s, why did Hussein kick out inspectors and not allow them back into Iraq?<br />
Rich Thugs to lie for Kerry??? What&#8217;s your definition of rich? And just how poor is Dan Rather if you get my drift. </p>
<p>Hmmm, it&#8217;s been determined that Al Qaeda numerous other anti-west terrorist (abu Nidal for one) were given hombrage in Iraq. Nuff said on that.<br />
And just how are Republicans sending jobs overseas? They&#8217;re not. The exodus started in the late 80&#8217;s and went full steam in the nineties when liberals decided to raise corporate taxes and it also began taking longer and longer to get building permits. And since when should the government get involved telling companies how to run their business&#8217;? Why do you think business&#8217; are leaving for starters?</p>
<p>Truman sent troops to Korea, Kennedy sent troops (oops, advisors) to Vietnam where Johnson just plain dropped the ball. Bongo, quick interlude to give you some advice. If you&#8217;re going to use Rolling Stone as your reference material, my dear adversary, you are in serious trouble or denial.<br />
Ah, the Foley deal. I guess we conveniently forgot about Representatives Frank (D,MA) and Studds (D,NH). Franks male lover runs a gay whore house out of Franks apartment, Studds got a male page drunk and seduced him when he was 17, but by the time the house (Tip O&#8217;Neill at the gavel) censored him, the page was 18 and case dropped. And since when can&#8217;t the authorities charge a private citizen. What an idiotic statement. What you&#8217;re saying is a member of Congress can murder someone, resign from Congress and face no charges??? What utter bilge. The authorities in Florida are examining this case to see if there IS evidence to prosecute.<br />
 Oh, and can anyone answer why France get&#8217;s 80% of it&#8217;s power from nuclear plants as does much of the developed world, yet we&#8217;re at 20% (yeah, coal, LNG and propane make up the majority of the rest, not wind, geothermal, or hydro). Right now there are 30 chemical plants being built worldwide. Zero in the U.S. Hey Bongo, did you know we import gasoline, yes, GASOLINE (that&#8217;s refined oil in case you&#8217;re unsure) from France because went haven&#8217;t built a refinery in this country since 1982. Which of course leads to blaming Republicans for the price of fuel. How patently stupid. Oil is a worldwide traded commodity, which means supply and demand sets the price, not W as some of you would like to believe. Maybe, Bongo, if you boned up on why we won&#8217;t allow oil companies to exploratory drill in ANWR, you could give us an opinion on that rather than the typical blame W rant.</p>
<p>Have a great day&#8230; And yes, I&#8217;m voting Tuesday&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Things To Remember About The Republicans When You Vote - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2814</link>
		<author>Things To Remember About The Republicans When You Vote - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2814</guid>
					<description>[...] Republicans are trying to remain in power by smearing Democrats because they are afraid to run on their record. They saw spreading misinformation about John Kerry as a winning strategy in 2004, and thought it would work again this year when they falsely claimed he had insulted the troops in Iraq. Eightandfive has a list of things that the Republicans want you to forget about when you vote, along with a number of useful links.  Written by Ron ChusidLast 5 posts by Ron ChusidSci Fi Friday: Star Trek Meets HeroesThe Kerry Smear and Why Republicans WinRepublicans Plot Voter Suppression in MarylandTed Haggard's Effect on Evangelical MindsThomas Friedman Warns Against Being Stupid [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Republicans are trying to remain in power by smearing Democrats because they are afraid to run on their record. They saw spreading misinformation about John Kerry as a winning strategy in 2004, and thought it would work again this year when they falsely claimed he had insulted the troops in Iraq. Eightandfive has a list of things that the Republicans want you to forget about when you vote, along with a number of useful links.  Written by Ron ChusidLast 5 posts by Ron ChusidSci Fi Friday: Star Trek Meets HeroesThe Kerry Smear and Why Republicans WinRepublicans Plot Voter Suppression in MarylandTed Haggard&#8217;s Effect on Evangelical MindsThomas Friedman Warns Against Being Stupid [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Things the Republicans want you to forget at Crashweb.net</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2816</link>
		<author>Things the Republicans want you to forget at Crashweb.net</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2816</guid>
					<description>[...] HERE is a fun list of things the republicans want you to forget when you go to vote. My favorite, of course, is that they want you to forget that there are no WMDs in Iraq. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] HERE is a fun list of things the republicans want you to forget when you go to vote. My favorite, of course, is that they want you to forget that there are no WMDs in Iraq. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2817</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2817</guid>
					<description>This isn't a typical blame W rant.  This is blaming Republicans.

But I don't hate Republicans, just the neo-con thugs that have hijacked the Republican party.

Get rid of your neo-con thugs so the Donkeys and Elephants can play nice again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a typical blame W rant.  This is blaming Republicans.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t hate Republicans, just the neo-con thugs that have hijacked the Republican party.</p>
<p>Get rid of your neo-con thugs so the Donkeys and Elephants can play nice again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lantern Bearer</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2818</link>
		<author>Lantern Bearer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2818</guid>
					<description>Projection . . .

Comment by zanothrope
2006-11-03 20:12:54

Democrats want you to forget that they do not have a single well thought out plan for solving any of the important issues today (i.e. immigration, homeland security, North Korea, social security, etc.) Vote Constitutional Party.

Hysteria . . . 

Comment by ob_one
2006-11-03 20:39:28 
Comical… Typical rant. If there were no WMD’s, why did Hussein kick out
inspectors and not allow them back into Iraq?
Rich Thugs to lie for Kerry??? What’s your definition of rich? And just how
poor is Dan Rather if you get my drift.

I have just read the post that you have here today.  I am sure that you are otherwise both pleasant chaps to have a drink with, if you are of age, but your post . . . , Gott in Himel, when was the last time your read something of substance and you have to that substance fuel drivel you get from Rush.  

I am thinking that first round of pardons will commence around 5:30am on Wednesday morning and the resignations should peak right around Yuletide.  Indictments will be in the works by Epiphany. 

Lantern Bearer 

Have a nice day!

(Now playing Robert Earle Keene, Sonora's Death Row.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Projection . . .</p>
<p>Comment by zanothrope<br />
2006-11-03 20:12:54</p>
<p>Democrats want you to forget that they do not have a single well thought out plan for solving any of the important issues today (i.e. immigration, homeland security, North Korea, social security, etc.) Vote Constitutional Party.</p>
<p>Hysteria . . . </p>
<p>Comment by ob_one<br />
2006-11-03 20:39:28<br />
Comical… Typical rant. If there were no WMD’s, why did Hussein kick out<br />
inspectors and not allow them back into Iraq?<br />
Rich Thugs to lie for Kerry??? What’s your definition of rich? And just how<br />
poor is Dan Rather if you get my drift.</p>
<p>I have just read the post that you have here today.  I am sure that you are otherwise both pleasant chaps to have a drink with, if you are of age, but your post . . . , Gott in Himel, when was the last time your read something of substance and you have to that substance fuel drivel you get from Rush.  </p>
<p>I am thinking that first round of pardons will commence around 5:30am on Wednesday morning and the resignations should peak right around Yuletide.  Indictments will be in the works by Epiphany. </p>
<p>Lantern Bearer </p>
<p>Have a nice day!</p>
<p>(Now playing Robert Earle Keene, Sonora&#8217;s Death Row.)</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2819</link>
		<author>phoenix</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2819</guid>
					<description>Wow. I can't believe there are still people out there who believe the things that ob_one is saying, that there were WMDs, or any of the rest. Soemone needs to pick up a newspaper, and it isn't the author. 

Reblogged at my political site. Well done, excellent list. I know I'll definitely keep it in mind when I cast my ballot. Things like this make me feel all that much better about my decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I can&#8217;t believe there are still people out there who believe the things that ob_one is saying, that there were WMDs, or any of the rest. Soemone needs to pick up a newspaper, and it isn&#8217;t the author. </p>
<p>Reblogged at my political site. Well done, excellent list. I know I&#8217;ll definitely keep it in mind when I cast my ballot. Things like this make me feel all that much better about my decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Not So Humble dot net &#124;&#124; Proud Member of the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy &#187; Stay On Target :: 19 Things The Republicans Would Like You to Forget</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2820</link>
		<author>Not So Humble dot net &#124;&#124; Proud Member of the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy &#187; Stay On Target :: 19 Things The Republicans Would Like You to Forget</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2820</guid>
					<description>[...] [ Stay On Target ] Source: EightandFive    Filed under: Rights and Freedoms, Activism, Economics, Foriegn Policy, Inside the Beltway, Race and Ethnicity, Culture Wars, The Homefront, Security, The War and Defense by &#8212; phoenix @ 9:59 pm [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] [ Stay On Target ] Source: EightandFive    Filed under: Rights and Freedoms, Activism, Economics, Foriegn Policy, Inside the Beltway, Race and Ethnicity, Culture Wars, The Homefront, Security, The War and Defense by &#8212; phoenix @ 9:59 pm [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2822</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2822</guid>
					<description>HA HA, good show!</description>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2823</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2823</guid>
					<description>All right, let’s have a bit of fun.

Point one. Hussein had every right to kick the inspectors out, look at the guy, what makes you think he’d let inspections continue. Strange thing is the documents in today’s news confirm that when the UN told him to stop the nuclear program, he did. Why do you continue to hold on to the hope that there were WMDs?

Uhh, yes, they were rich and they were thugs. What the Swift Boat Vets for Truth did is textbook thuggery. Dan Rather? C’mon, man. You can do better than that.

“It’s been determined?” By who? This administration? Yet another straw-man argument.

Did you even visit the link he provided as evidence to back up his point? It clearly states that U.S. Tax Code, written by Republicans, gives privileges to those that offshore rather than keeping jobs here at home. Oh, and as soon as our government stops telling me what I can do in the bedroom, who we can marry and what women can do with their bodies, it can stop telling business what to do. Businesses are leaving because Republican-written policies reward it.

Korea, that one isn’t so easy to defend. Granted the Korean war was more about defense and not offense. After all we never went above the 38th parallel.

Vietnam’s roots start well before Kennedy I am sorry to say. Eisenhower sent advisers before Kennedy, in fact the first American deaths occurred in the Eisenhower administration. So, while Kennedy and LBJ escalated, Eisenhower started the wheels turning. And while selected historians say it was actually Truman who first sent advisors, these people were non-governmental operatives. I guess you could call them mercenaries.

You guys are so quick to bring up Studds, but you forget about Rep. Dan Crane. Why do you guys always forget that? Do you know who Dan Crane is? Anyway, at least Studds faced the music and didn’t run and hide in “rehab”. Studds faced the House while he was censured and then went and faced his constituents, who voted to reelect him. He admitted his mistake, moved on and was reelected. The people spoke. Foley ran and hid. And, Congress has no power over you, me or Foley now. He can’t be censured by his peers.

The US stopped building nuclear power plants after Three Mile Island. Good thing, too, because Chernobyl taught the world a nasty lesson of what happens when things go bad at nuclear plants. There have been at least 11 near misses in the US since Three Mile Island. And we still don’t know what to do with the waste. And why should I care about France. You, I am sure, certainly don’t.

As for refieneries, why do we need to build more? If this Congress would raise fueld standards there wouldn’t bee a need to build any more. We can cut consumption down. Don’t you remember when Bush said we were “addicted to oil”? Usually that implies a negative. Cut consumption and price won’t matter. And we will be able to cut our dependency on foreign oil. But there are always the pesky oil company lobbyists aren’t there?

And when a company makes a $10.49 billion in a single quarter, while Americans are being squeezed at the pump, there is something completely wrong. That figure is so amazing that I believe it is hard for normal people to comprehend so it doesn’t even register.

And there is no reason to drill in ANWAR and try a easy solution to energy consumption in this country. We have the ability to build more fuel economy into our cash economy and it would create jobs. What is wrong with that?

Oh, and good luck voting on Tuesday if you live in a poor community, you'll be standing in line most of the night and there is a good chance your name has been "purged" from the voting lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right, let’s have a bit of fun.</p>
<p>Point one. Hussein had every right to kick the inspectors out, look at the guy, what makes you think he’d let inspections continue. Strange thing is the documents in today’s news confirm that when the UN told him to stop the nuclear program, he did. Why do you continue to hold on to the hope that there were WMDs?</p>
<p>Uhh, yes, they were rich and they were thugs. What the Swift Boat Vets for Truth did is textbook thuggery. Dan Rather? C’mon, man. You can do better than that.</p>
<p>“It’s been determined?” By who? This administration? Yet another straw-man argument.</p>
<p>Did you even visit the link he provided as evidence to back up his point? It clearly states that U.S. Tax Code, written by Republicans, gives privileges to those that offshore rather than keeping jobs here at home. Oh, and as soon as our government stops telling me what I can do in the bedroom, who we can marry and what women can do with their bodies, it can stop telling business what to do. Businesses are leaving because Republican-written policies reward it.</p>
<p>Korea, that one isn’t so easy to defend. Granted the Korean war was more about defense and not offense. After all we never went above the 38th parallel.</p>
<p>Vietnam’s roots start well before Kennedy I am sorry to say. Eisenhower sent advisers before Kennedy, in fact the first American deaths occurred in the Eisenhower administration. So, while Kennedy and LBJ escalated, Eisenhower started the wheels turning. And while selected historians say it was actually Truman who first sent advisors, these people were non-governmental operatives. I guess you could call them mercenaries.</p>
<p>You guys are so quick to bring up Studds, but you forget about Rep. Dan Crane. Why do you guys always forget that? Do you know who Dan Crane is? Anyway, at least Studds faced the music and didn’t run and hide in “rehab”. Studds faced the House while he was censured and then went and faced his constituents, who voted to reelect him. He admitted his mistake, moved on and was reelected. The people spoke. Foley ran and hid. And, Congress has no power over you, me or Foley now. He can’t be censured by his peers.</p>
<p>The US stopped building nuclear power plants after Three Mile Island. Good thing, too, because Chernobyl taught the world a nasty lesson of what happens when things go bad at nuclear plants. There have been at least 11 near misses in the US since Three Mile Island. And we still don’t know what to do with the waste. And why should I care about France. You, I am sure, certainly don’t.</p>
<p>As for refieneries, why do we need to build more? If this Congress would raise fueld standards there wouldn’t bee a need to build any more. We can cut consumption down. Don’t you remember when Bush said we were “addicted to oil”? Usually that implies a negative. Cut consumption and price won’t matter. And we will be able to cut our dependency on foreign oil. But there are always the pesky oil company lobbyists aren’t there?</p>
<p>And when a company makes a $10.49 billion in a single quarter, while Americans are being squeezed at the pump, there is something completely wrong. That figure is so amazing that I believe it is hard for normal people to comprehend so it doesn’t even register.</p>
<p>And there is no reason to drill in ANWAR and try a easy solution to energy consumption in this country. We have the ability to build more fuel economy into our cash economy and it would create jobs. What is wrong with that?</p>
<p>Oh, and good luck voting on Tuesday if you live in a poor community, you&#8217;ll be standing in line most of the night and there is a good chance your name has been &#8220;purged&#8221; from the voting lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2824</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2824</guid>
					<description>Oh, and if I could add a 20th point to round it off...

The Republicans want you to forget that deficits do indeed matter, especially when China has &lt;a href="http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8083036" rel="nofollow"&gt;$1 trillion in reserves, much of it in American debt.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and if I could add a 20th point to round it off&#8230;</p>
<p>The Republicans want you to forget that deficits do indeed matter, especially when China has <a href="http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8083036" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">$1 trillion in reserves, much of it in American debt.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anwar Sadat</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2825</link>
		<author>Anwar Sadat</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2825</guid>
					<description>It is all true...during the Kennedy/Johnson administrations, and during the Clinton/Gore years...there were no wars...started...by us...sort of...The NV started Vietnam against the French.  Bosnia started it against Hersagovina (spelling sux)...Milosovich started it against his own people.  

It is obvious the Republicans are letting jobs get offshored to China...because of the fine trade agreement with them...supported by some kickbacks by Chinese intrests to the party in charge...in when was it...1996?  Yup W did that too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all true&#8230;during the Kennedy/Johnson administrations, and during the Clinton/Gore years&#8230;there were no wars&#8230;started&#8230;by us&#8230;sort of&#8230;The NV started Vietnam against the French.  Bosnia started it against Hersagovina (spelling sux)&#8230;Milosovich started it against his own people.  </p>
<p>It is obvious the Republicans are letting jobs get offshored to China&#8230;because of the fine trade agreement with them&#8230;supported by some kickbacks by Chinese intrests to the party in charge&#8230;in when was it&#8230;1996?  Yup W did that too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake LaMotta</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2827</link>
		<author>Jake LaMotta</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2827</guid>
					<description>Hey, look on the bright side people, at least we get to watch the American empire fall! How many people alive today are able to say they watched the Roman Empire fall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, look on the bright side people, at least we get to watch the American empire fall! How many people alive today are able to say they watched the Roman Empire fall?</p>
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		<title>By: Stay On Target &#171; Ireneo&#8217;s Memory</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2828</link>
		<author>Stay On Target &#171; Ireneo&#8217;s Memory</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2828</guid>
					<description>[...] 19 things the current Republican leadership wants you to forget. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 19 things the current Republican leadership wants you to forget. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2829</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2829</guid>
					<description>I never blamed W in this post.  

I blame all Republicans who allowed their party to get hi-jacked by the neo-con goon squad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never blamed W in this post.  </p>
<p>I blame all Republicans who allowed their party to get hi-jacked by the neo-con goon squad.</p>
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		<title>By: disgrunt &#187; 19 Things Republicans Want You to Forget</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2830</link>
		<author>disgrunt &#187; 19 Things Republicans Want You to Forget</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2830</guid>
					<description>[...] Source: eightandfive     Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in Politics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Source: eightandfive     Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in Politics [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2833</link>
		<author>Allan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 06:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2833</guid>
					<description>The biggest fault of the Republicans is their hypocrisy. They are so blind to their own faults that they don't see in themselves what they see in Democrats and anyone else who disagrees with them.

Do they really think that Ted Haggard only paid for a massage? Would they forgive anyone else accused of the something similar (e.g. Bill Clinton)?

I didn't think so. 

Fuck the Republicans. Fuck them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest fault of the Republicans is their hypocrisy. They are so blind to their own faults that they don&#8217;t see in themselves what they see in Democrats and anyone else who disagrees with them.</p>
<p>Do they really think that Ted Haggard only paid for a massage? Would they forgive anyone else accused of the something similar (e.g. Bill Clinton)?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>Fuck the Republicans. Fuck them all.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2836</link>
		<author>alex</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2836</guid>
					<description>just a note on czech airs comment. we did cross the 38th parallel in the korean war by a few hundred miles. though those were not mcarthur's orders. he was more than a bit of a cowboy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a note on czech airs comment. we did cross the 38th parallel in the korean war by a few hundred miles. though those were not mcarthur&#8217;s orders. he was more than a bit of a cowboy.</p>
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		<title>By: P i n D a a L &#187; 19 things republican&#8217;s want you to forget.</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2839</link>
		<author>P i n D a a L &#187; 19 things republican&#8217;s want you to forget.</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2839</guid>
					<description>[...] A list of all of the things republicans want you to forget when you vote. Read them and remember and remind your friends. More&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A list of all of the things republicans want you to forget when you vote. Read them and remember and remind your friends. More&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2840</link>
		<author>adam</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2840</guid>
					<description>just a note on the fuel consumption policies - the people who fought hard against that were lobbyists for car manufacturers, not (as stated) oil companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a note on the fuel consumption policies - the people who fought hard against that were lobbyists for car manufacturers, not (as stated) oil companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath Dot Com &#187; Two Great Links</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2841</link>
		<author>Aaron Heath Dot Com &#187; Two Great Links</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2841</guid>
					<description>[...] Republican Things to Forget - A whole load of things to remember for Americans going to the polls in early November. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Republican Things to Forget - A whole load of things to remember for Americans going to the polls in early November. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Republicans want you to forget&#8230; &#187; Graham English&#8217;s Integral Conversations</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2843</link>
		<author>Republicans want you to forget&#8230; &#187; Graham English&#8217;s Integral Conversations</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2843</guid>
					<description>[...] Here&#8217;s a list of 19 things Republicans want you to forget. Print it out and remind your friends on election day.  If you enjoyed this article, please bookmark and share:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Here&#8217;s a list of 19 things Republicans want you to forget. Print it out and remind your friends on election day.  If you enjoyed this article, please bookmark and share:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Graham English</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2844</link>
		<author>Graham English</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2844</guid>
					<description>Bravo!</description>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2845</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2845</guid>
					<description>In the words of John McLaughlin...

WRONG!

Exxon Mobile gave $935,016 to Republican candidates during the 2004 election cycle in order to get those crooks to gut the energy bill. What was in that energy bill? Higher fuel economy standards, what did those Republicans who got money from Exxon Mobile do to the fuel economy standards. You can probably guess.

Also, I suggest you look up a Wall Street Journal article entitled: "As Gasoline Prices Soar, Americans Resist Major Cuts in Consumption" from the May 1, 2006 issue. There is a candid interview with an Exxon Mobile executive in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of John McLaughlin&#8230;</p>
<p>WRONG!</p>
<p>Exxon Mobile gave $935,016 to Republican candidates during the 2004 election cycle in order to get those crooks to gut the energy bill. What was in that energy bill? Higher fuel economy standards, what did those Republicans who got money from Exxon Mobile do to the fuel economy standards. You can probably guess.</p>
<p>Also, I suggest you look up a Wall Street Journal article entitled: &#8220;As Gasoline Prices Soar, Americans Resist Major Cuts in Consumption&#8221; from the May 1, 2006 issue. There is a candid interview with an Exxon Mobile executive in it.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2846</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2846</guid>
					<description>I don't think the American "Empire" will fall.  I do believe that there are people in America who think it is an empire, but there are plenty who think otherwise.

The number one thing Americans need to do is restore system of checks and balances by getting another party in power in one of the branches of government, thus, forcing cooperation instead of exclusion and bullying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the American &#8220;Empire&#8221; will fall.  I do believe that there are people in America who think it is an empire, but there are plenty who think otherwise.</p>
<p>The number one thing Americans need to do is restore system of checks and balances by getting another party in power in one of the branches of government, thus, forcing cooperation instead of exclusion and bullying.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2847</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2847</guid>
					<description>I generally like to say "Fuck the Neo-Cons", but really, the Republicans have allowed their party to be run by the Neo-Cons for the past decade or so.

I am hoping they wake up soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally like to say &#8220;Fuck the Neo-Cons&#8221;, but really, the Republicans have allowed their party to be run by the Neo-Cons for the past decade or so.</p>
<p>I am hoping they wake up soon.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2848</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2848</guid>
					<description>The closest this website has ever come to endorsing a candidate from a political party was when Oscar wrote an article declaring an Independent the winner in a debate:

http://eightandfive.com/2006/10/30/winner-robert-fitzgerald/

But maybe I will make a list of things Democrats want you to forget just for the hell of it.

I will publish it on November 8th, 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The closest this website has ever come to endorsing a candidate from a political party was when Oscar wrote an article declaring an Independent the winner in a debate:</p>
<p><a href="http://eightandfive.com/2006/10/30/winner-robert-fitzgerald/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">http://eightandfive.com/2006/10/30/winner-robert-fitzgerald/</a></p>
<p>But maybe I will make a list of things Democrats want you to forget just for the hell of it.</p>
<p>I will publish it on November 8th, 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Pudentain</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2849</link>
		<author>Pudentain</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2849</guid>
					<description>Eisenhower sent the first "advisers" to Viet Nam.</description>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2850</link>
		<author>bob</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2850</guid>
					<description>You forgot to list all the corporate pandering that has been done. You forgot to list all the pro-corporate/anti-consumer laws thats have been passed (gambling, bankruptcy) that cater to big business and gives kickbacks to all the top bush buddies. You did not mention the faked death of ken lay, bush's long term friend that died mysteriously and was "cremated" within hours. You forgot to mention jacked up gas prices and the war profiteering in iraq for cheney and the bird flu scare to boost    rumsfields flu stock. This list barely scratches the surface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to list all the corporate pandering that has been done. You forgot to list all the pro-corporate/anti-consumer laws thats have been passed (gambling, bankruptcy) that cater to big business and gives kickbacks to all the top bush buddies. You did not mention the faked death of ken lay, bush&#8217;s long term friend that died mysteriously and was &#8220;cremated&#8221; within hours. You forgot to mention jacked up gas prices and the war profiteering in iraq for cheney and the bird flu scare to boost    rumsfields flu stock. This list barely scratches the surface.</p>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2851</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2851</guid>
					<description>Umm, did you mean to say "though those were mcarthur's orders"?

Otherwise you are not making sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, did you mean to say &#8220;though those were mcarthur&#8217;s orders&#8221;?</p>
<p>Otherwise you are not making sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2852</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2852</guid>
					<description>We only have so much server space!

I have friends who never, NEVER buy into conspiracy theories. But even they think Lay's death was mysterious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only have so much server space!</p>
<p>I have friends who never, NEVER buy into conspiracy theories. But even they think Lay&#8217;s death was mysterious.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2853</link>
		<author>Chris</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2853</guid>
					<description>Rupublicans have had control of congress and the whitehouse for a very long time.  If they wanted to change any of this they chould have.  They've never had a better chance and it will be a long time before they will again.  It's just like abortion.  They like to talk about this stuff to get people to vote for them, but they'll never deliver on their promises because then they won't have that excuse to get people to vote for them in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupublicans have had control of congress and the whitehouse for a very long time.  If they wanted to change any of this they chould have.  They&#8217;ve never had a better chance and it will be a long time before they will again.  It&#8217;s just like abortion.  They like to talk about this stuff to get people to vote for them, but they&#8217;ll never deliver on their promises because then they won&#8217;t have that excuse to get people to vote for them in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: dali</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2855</link>
		<author>dali</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2855</guid>
					<description>"Republicans want you to forget that sending jobs overseas takes jobs away from working Americans." 
Are we protectionist? should we close our borders? Democrats are against the right of Indians and Chinease to make a $ and raise thier standard of living? 

"Republicans want you to forget that they don’t want Social Security to exist at all, instead, you get whatever money you have managed to save when you retire."
You can argu against the solution they offered, but this is hardly it. by most statistical mesurments, you will have more money.

"Republicans want you to forget that fuel costs have doubled since 2000, but your income has not."
If it goes up, they are evil, when it goes down, they are also evil. if no matter what the facts are it is an argument against them, then it is an invalid one. Also, again, what is the problem? Democrats want low prices or green energy? can they decide already?

Republicans want you to forget that even though you are not making record profits, oil companies are.
D&#38;J and S"&#38;P are doing very well. Energy sector is a small % of that, so this statment is false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Republicans want you to forget that sending jobs overseas takes jobs away from working Americans.&#8221;<br />
Are we protectionist? should we close our borders? Democrats are against the right of Indians and Chinease to make a $ and raise thier standard of living? </p>
<p>&#8220;Republicans want you to forget that they don’t want Social Security to exist at all, instead, you get whatever money you have managed to save when you retire.&#8221;<br />
You can argu against the solution they offered, but this is hardly it. by most statistical mesurments, you will have more money.</p>
<p>&#8220;Republicans want you to forget that fuel costs have doubled since 2000, but your income has not.&#8221;<br />
If it goes up, they are evil, when it goes down, they are also evil. if no matter what the facts are it is an argument against them, then it is an invalid one. Also, again, what is the problem? Democrats want low prices or green energy? can they decide already?</p>
<p>Republicans want you to forget that even though you are not making record profits, oil companies are.<br />
D&amp;J and S&#8221;&amp;P are doing very well. Energy sector is a small % of that, so this statment is false.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2856</link>
		<author>alex</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2856</guid>
					<description>no i meant what i said. mcarthur's orders were to retake south korea not invade north korea. he had so much success retaking south korea that he figured he'd just take the whole country and he was well on his way till ran into something like 1/2 a million chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no i meant what i said. mcarthur&#8217;s orders were to retake south korea not invade north korea. he had so much success retaking south korea that he figured he&#8217;d just take the whole country and he was well on his way till ran into something like 1/2 a million chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2857</link>
		<author>alex</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2857</guid>
					<description>your confusion has been recently made clear to me czech. i meant that trumans orders were only to retake south korea. mcarthur made the unilateral decision to disobey the president's orders and invade north korea. hence the disgraceful end to his career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your confusion has been recently made clear to me czech. i meant that trumans orders were only to retake south korea. mcarthur made the unilateral decision to disobey the president&#8217;s orders and invade north korea. hence the disgraceful end to his career.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2858</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2858</guid>
					<description>Quote:  "Are we protectionist? should we close our borders? Democrats are against the right of Indians and Chinease to make a $ and raise thier standard of living?"

My Reply:  I never claimed to be a Democrat nor to be writing for Democrats.  Republicans have had six years of complete power in all three branches of government - and they blew it.

Quote:  "You can argu against the solution they offered, but this is hardly it. by most statistical mesurments, you will have more money."

My reply:  Just because the economy tends to expand over time does not mean we should shit-can Social Security.  Got a 401K?  Try doing a 401K calculator.  The note the asterisk that says, "Based on 8% per year return".  Guess how many 401ks return 8%?  Zero.

Quote:  "If it goes up, they are evil, when it goes down, they are also evil. if no matter what the facts are it is an argument against them, then it is an invalid one. Also, again, what is the problem? Democrats want low prices or green energy? can they decide already?"

My Reply:  I agree with your invalid argument.  When in doubt, Republicans ARE evil.

I never said Democrats had all the answers and I never claimed to be a Democrat - then only sure thing is Republicans have blown it.

Quote:  "D&#038;J and S”&#038;P are doing very well. Energy sector is a small % of that, so this statment is false."

My reply:  This response has nothing to do with the original post.

STAY ON TARGET!

STAY ON TARGET!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:  &#8220;Are we protectionist? should we close our borders? Democrats are against the right of Indians and Chinease to make a $ and raise thier standard of living?&#8221;</p>
<p>My Reply:  I never claimed to be a Democrat nor to be writing for Democrats.  Republicans have had six years of complete power in all three branches of government - and they blew it.</p>
<p>Quote:  &#8220;You can argu against the solution they offered, but this is hardly it. by most statistical mesurments, you will have more money.&#8221;</p>
<p>My reply:  Just because the economy tends to expand over time does not mean we should shit-can Social Security.  Got a 401K?  Try doing a 401K calculator.  The note the asterisk that says, &#8220;Based on 8% per year return&#8221;.  Guess how many 401ks return 8%?  Zero.</p>
<p>Quote:  &#8220;If it goes up, they are evil, when it goes down, they are also evil. if no matter what the facts are it is an argument against them, then it is an invalid one. Also, again, what is the problem? Democrats want low prices or green energy? can they decide already?&#8221;</p>
<p>My Reply:  I agree with your invalid argument.  When in doubt, Republicans ARE evil.</p>
<p>I never said Democrats had all the answers and I never claimed to be a Democrat - then only sure thing is Republicans have blown it.</p>
<p>Quote:  &#8220;D&#038;J and S”&#038;P are doing very well. Energy sector is a small % of that, so this statment is false.&#8221;</p>
<p>My reply:  This response has nothing to do with the original post.</p>
<p>STAY ON TARGET!</p>
<p>STAY ON TARGET!!</p>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2862</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2862</guid>
					<description>From StarTribune.com letters:

&lt;b&gt;Longtime Republican says Bush is running the country into the ground&lt;/b&gt;

I have been a middle-of-the-road Republican most of my life. I have a simple conservative belief: conserve what is good; change what is bad.

My Republican Party was taken over in 2001 by a group seeking above all power: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Ken Rove and later Donald Rumsfeld. Their quest for power has only been exceeded by their incompetence. What has struck me was the way the rest of the Republican Party kowtowed to the bullying tactics of these men and let our country fall into the pitiable state it is now in.

In my mind Bush had decided to go to war with Iraq even before he was in office. I hope now everyone knows there were no weapons of mass destruction or terrorists in Iraq before the war. After the war ("mission accomplished") Iraq was a breeding ground for terrorists and suddenly there was a brand-new guerrilla war. With his usual incompetence Bush had disbanded the Iraqi army, the one built-in peacekeeping force in Iraq.

Now, Bush is faced with a real nuclear danger in North Korea and Iran, but because of Iraq, he is helpless to do anything about it.

I lament over our 2,700 brave service men and women killed in Iraq and the 20,000 wounded. And who knows how many hundred thousands of innocent Iraqis have been killed

Could anyone not be critical of Bush's noncaring incompetence? Members of the Republican Party must speak out. They call it Bush-bashing. Well, he should be bashed.

The Republican Party used to be known as the party of fiscal responsibility, but Bush and company have changed that, running up debts in the trillions. It seems almost ludicrous that he has slashed taxes for the rich.

They call it free trade and Bush has let other countries wipe the floor with Americans and American rights. Jobs are outsourced, families destroyed in the name of free trade and globalization. The labor movement has lost its clout, because if a strike is threatened the corporations may gleefully outsource their jobs. The middle class is heading for destruction. It used to be Americans first. Now it's "let 'em eat cake."

The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina has been so incompetently handled it brings tears to your eyes. After World War II the Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe, but today New Orleans is still a mess.

Bush condones torture in this country. Imagine: The United States of America allowing torture! After the Bataan death march in World War II we still wouldn't even consider torture. The Japanese POWs couldn't believe that they were being treated so well.

Prisoners are held without being charged and without access to a lawyer. The Nazis at Nuremburg, the worst criminals in the history of the world, were given lawyers and a fair trial.

And what might end up the most serious charge against Bush is the global warming he has neglected and largely ridiculed. We don't know yet what this will do to mankind and our planet.

Ever since I was a young man in Fargo, I have had a warm spot in my heart for the Republican Party. GOP: Grand Old Party. The party of Abraham Lincoln. It was a party of responsibility, something you could count on. I fondly remember a picture of my uncle Milton Rue (who was head of North Dakota's Republican Party in the 1950s) riding in a car with President Dwight Eisenhower. They were laughing and talking, obviously friends. They are no doubt turning over in their graves at the fumblings of Bush.

At that time, I was a jet fighter pilot in the U.S. Air Force, fiercely patriotic (still am) and proud of my country. But I can't be proud of this man who is running our country into the ground.

I could go on and on about Bush and his pathetic crew, but now I can only hope that the November election stops him.

RICHARD RUE, WAYZATA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From StarTribune.com letters:</p>
<p><b>Longtime Republican says Bush is running the country into the ground</b></p>
<p>I have been a middle-of-the-road Republican most of my life. I have a simple conservative belief: conserve what is good; change what is bad.</p>
<p>My Republican Party was taken over in 2001 by a group seeking above all power: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Ken Rove and later Donald Rumsfeld. Their quest for power has only been exceeded by their incompetence. What has struck me was the way the rest of the Republican Party kowtowed to the bullying tactics of these men and let our country fall into the pitiable state it is now in.</p>
<p>In my mind Bush had decided to go to war with Iraq even before he was in office. I hope now everyone knows there were no weapons of mass destruction or terrorists in Iraq before the war. After the war (&#8221;mission accomplished&#8221;) Iraq was a breeding ground for terrorists and suddenly there was a brand-new guerrilla war. With his usual incompetence Bush had disbanded the Iraqi army, the one built-in peacekeeping force in Iraq.</p>
<p>Now, Bush is faced with a real nuclear danger in North Korea and Iran, but because of Iraq, he is helpless to do anything about it.</p>
<p>I lament over our 2,700 brave service men and women killed in Iraq and the 20,000 wounded. And who knows how many hundred thousands of innocent Iraqis have been killed</p>
<p>Could anyone not be critical of Bush&#8217;s noncaring incompetence? Members of the Republican Party must speak out. They call it Bush-bashing. Well, he should be bashed.</p>
<p>The Republican Party used to be known as the party of fiscal responsibility, but Bush and company have changed that, running up debts in the trillions. It seems almost ludicrous that he has slashed taxes for the rich.</p>
<p>They call it free trade and Bush has let other countries wipe the floor with Americans and American rights. Jobs are outsourced, families destroyed in the name of free trade and globalization. The labor movement has lost its clout, because if a strike is threatened the corporations may gleefully outsource their jobs. The middle class is heading for destruction. It used to be Americans first. Now it&#8217;s &#8220;let &#8216;em eat cake.&#8221;</p>
<p>The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina has been so incompetently handled it brings tears to your eyes. After World War II the Marshall Plan rebuilt Europe, but today New Orleans is still a mess.</p>
<p>Bush condones torture in this country. Imagine: The United States of America allowing torture! After the Bataan death march in World War II we still wouldn&#8217;t even consider torture. The Japanese POWs couldn&#8217;t believe that they were being treated so well.</p>
<p>Prisoners are held without being charged and without access to a lawyer. The Nazis at Nuremburg, the worst criminals in the history of the world, were given lawyers and a fair trial.</p>
<p>And what might end up the most serious charge against Bush is the global warming he has neglected and largely ridiculed. We don&#8217;t know yet what this will do to mankind and our planet.</p>
<p>Ever since I was a young man in Fargo, I have had a warm spot in my heart for the Republican Party. GOP: Grand Old Party. The party of Abraham Lincoln. It was a party of responsibility, something you could count on. I fondly remember a picture of my uncle Milton Rue (who was head of North Dakota&#8217;s Republican Party in the 1950s) riding in a car with President Dwight Eisenhower. They were laughing and talking, obviously friends. They are no doubt turning over in their graves at the fumblings of Bush.</p>
<p>At that time, I was a jet fighter pilot in the U.S. Air Force, fiercely patriotic (still am) and proud of my country. But I can&#8217;t be proud of this man who is running our country into the ground.</p>
<p>I could go on and on about Bush and his pathetic crew, but now I can only hope that the November election stops him.</p>
<p>RICHARD RUE, WAYZATA</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2869</link>
		<author>Tim</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2869</guid>
					<description>This post is absolutely telling the truth!  Yo, don't forget and kick those friggin Republicans out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is absolutely telling the truth!  Yo, don&#8217;t forget and kick those friggin Republicans out!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2870</link>
		<author>steve</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2870</guid>
					<description>So true .

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		<title>By: BEERORKID - A bunch of useless crap Lincoln Ne &#187; What the republicans want you to forget</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2877</link>
		<author>BEERORKID - A bunch of useless crap Lincoln Ne &#187; What the republicans want you to forget</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2877</guid>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2878</link>
		<author>Neil</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2878</guid>
					<description>its not they want you to forget.

its just they dont want you to think for yourself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not they want you to forget.</p>
<p>its just they dont want you to think for yourself</p>
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		<title>By: HickRetard</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2879</link>
		<author>HickRetard</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2879</guid>
					<description>Yep... its all the republicans fault for everything. If democrats were in power america would be utopia.  Funny how the republicans are always fucking up things.  

Its strange that the democrats are such spectacles of perfection.  

I can't way till the democrats get into power and fuck it all up and then maybe we'll have a civil war and get exterminate all the idiots that exist in america.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230; its all the republicans fault for everything. If democrats were in power america would be utopia.  Funny how the republicans are always fucking up things.  </p>
<p>Its strange that the democrats are such spectacles of perfection.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t way till the democrats get into power and fuck it all up and then maybe we&#8217;ll have a civil war and get exterminate all the idiots that exist in america.</p>
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		<title>By: HickRetard</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2880</link>
		<author>HickRetard</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2880</guid>
					<description>The only reason why people hate bush so much is because they can't understand how a hick could become president and not one of there own gems of perfection like gore or kerry. One day you might realize you are not so perfect and are actually quite stupid. Until then you'll spout your nonsense crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason why people hate bush so much is because they can&#8217;t understand how a hick could become president and not one of there own gems of perfection like gore or kerry. One day you might realize you are not so perfect and are actually quite stupid. Until then you&#8217;ll spout your nonsense crap.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2882</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2882</guid>
					<description>Then only reason you hate me is because you know I am correct.

In the above post I never said I hated Republicans and I never said to "Vote Democrat".  I do hate neo-cons.  All of them.  Since you self-registered as a "HickRetard" I doubt you know what a neo-con is.

Vote your conscience.

If that means you need to vote Republican, so be it.  But make sure you submit a correct mailing address for your welfare check.

You'll need it if the neo-con thugs win again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then only reason you hate me is because you know I am correct.</p>
<p>In the above post I never said I hated Republicans and I never said to &#8220;Vote Democrat&#8221;.  I do hate neo-cons.  All of them.  Since you self-registered as a &#8220;HickRetard&#8221; I doubt you know what a neo-con is.</p>
<p>Vote your conscience.</p>
<p>If that means you need to vote Republican, so be it.  But make sure you submit a correct mailing address for your welfare check.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll need it if the neo-con thugs win again.</p>
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		<title>By: prose</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2883</link>
		<author>prose</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2883</guid>
					<description>You know, as a Canadian I can fairly say I have somewhat as a bias in this. Personally, I hate what has happened to the Republican Party (Regime?). However, the States loss means that our country does a little better in comparison. Not a whole lot, as our economies are tied quite closely, but a little. Our dollar has gotten itself out of its pitiful slump, mostly thanks to the american government.

That said, it's amazing how ignorant people can be. There are two sides to EVERY story, and looking at what has been happening, the "ignorant american" title so heard outside your borders has never been so obvious and true. How can this party stay in power?

I'm not saying vote R, I'm not saying vote D. Way up north our system works a little differently, we have a party called the "Liberals" which is in the middle ground. Not left winged, not right winged, it should be in the middle (doesn't always work that way, thats the idea). Maybe it's time America tried something of the same?   

I mean, how FREE are you when you only have the choice of two?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, as a Canadian I can fairly say I have somewhat as a bias in this. Personally, I hate what has happened to the Republican Party (Regime?). However, the States loss means that our country does a little better in comparison. Not a whole lot, as our economies are tied quite closely, but a little. Our dollar has gotten itself out of its pitiful slump, mostly thanks to the american government.</p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s amazing how ignorant people can be. There are two sides to EVERY story, and looking at what has been happening, the &#8220;ignorant american&#8221; title so heard outside your borders has never been so obvious and true. How can this party stay in power?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying vote R, I&#8217;m not saying vote D. Way up north our system works a little differently, we have a party called the &#8220;Liberals&#8221; which is in the middle ground. Not left winged, not right winged, it should be in the middle (doesn&#8217;t always work that way, thats the idea). Maybe it&#8217;s time America tried something of the same?   </p>
<p>I mean, how FREE are you when you only have the choice of two?</p>
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		<title>By: prose</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2884</link>
		<author>prose</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2884</guid>
					<description>Oh, and I forgot to mention:

Keep fighting guys. Most of us up here support the tossing of Bush!</description>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2885</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2885</guid>
					<description>If the neo-con thugs steal another election, you may have an immigration problem as disenfranchised voters migrate to Canada.

Either that or we'll just move to one of the tent cities that form up in Wal-Mart's parking lots.  After poor folks suddenly stop buying stuff because they don't have anymore nickels left...they'll have to live somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the neo-con thugs steal another election, you may have an immigration problem as disenfranchised voters migrate to Canada.</p>
<p>Either that or we&#8217;ll just move to one of the tent cities that form up in Wal-Mart&#8217;s parking lots.  After poor folks suddenly stop buying stuff because they don&#8217;t have anymore nickels left&#8230;they&#8217;ll have to live somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2887</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2887</guid>
					<description>P.S. Only a coward supplies a false e-mail address when attacking someone on a web posting. You pussy-assed domestic terrorist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Only a coward supplies a false e-mail address when attacking someone on a web posting. You pussy-assed domestic terrorist!</p>
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		<title>By: Ponder</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2888</link>
		<author>Ponder</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2888</guid>
					<description>The Repug's do not want you to remember Katrina, unless your a white supremicist in which case they have probably already sent you a flyer about it.  

They want you to remember that they are the party of personal responsibility but corporations and politicians should only be responsible to the stock market.  They also want you to forget that even if they are not George W. they have protected him from any investigation or oversight.  They also want you to forget that a vote for a Dem is a vote for investigations to commence that should have started 5 years ago in some cases.  If you do not believe in freedom or accountability vote Repug so we can have more rights taken away for the citizens and not have to fear any investigation that may make Fox news look like liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Repug&#8217;s do not want you to remember Katrina, unless your a white supremicist in which case they have probably already sent you a flyer about it.  </p>
<p>They want you to remember that they are the party of personal responsibility but corporations and politicians should only be responsible to the stock market.  They also want you to forget that even if they are not George W. they have protected him from any investigation or oversight.  They also want you to forget that a vote for a Dem is a vote for investigations to commence that should have started 5 years ago in some cases.  If you do not believe in freedom or accountability vote Repug so we can have more rights taken away for the citizens and not have to fear any investigation that may make Fox news look like liars.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2889</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2889</guid>
					<description>We just need actual responsible Republicans to take back the Republican party from the neo-conservative bastards.

The damage to the Republican party is deep and probably lasting.

It will take a political ass-whooping to set them straight.

Here's to hoping for a sweep from power and a much-needed changing of the guard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just need actual responsible Republicans to take back the Republican party from the neo-conservative bastards.</p>
<p>The damage to the Republican party is deep and probably lasting.</p>
<p>It will take a political ass-whooping to set them straight.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to hoping for a sweep from power and a much-needed changing of the guard!</p>
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		<title>By: Ponder</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2890</link>
		<author>Ponder</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2890</guid>
					<description>I agree I miss looking at Repug's as people that are patriotic but have a different approach to helping this country than the Dem's.  It was not long ago that I had no beef with Repug's even though I did not agree with what they thought were good policies we still lived and died TOGETHER in my opinion.  I no longer feel that way, now if someone tells me they are a Repug I walk away and never speak to them again.  I no longer have any sense of humour about it.  After Katrina I stopped telling myself they were misled by talk radio and Fox News and began to see them as Collaborators to this criminal administration.  I hate what has happened to this country.  Five years ago Repug or Dem I did not care although I voted Dem I looked at it as a disagreement of how to approach a common goal, now I see them as traitors to our nation and its founding ideas.  I want to be able to shake a Repug's hand again without wanting to spit in their face for supporting a facist regieme.  I want to be able to trust my fellow citizens again to not take my rights because 1)they dont agree 2) it doesnt affect them.  "If your neighbors house is on fire then yours is not safe either."  Please Republicans everywhere, please vote for people that will give us our rights back and investigate all the questionable things that have been done in the last 5 years.  Whether a Dem or an Independant or just not voting at all.  We only need one good election for the investigations to take place and if the Neo-cons did nothing wrong fine I just want someone to please god check after that vote Republican all you want.  If not I will make sure to not cross the street to piss on a Repug if they were on fire.  I feel I have more in common now with citizens all over this world than I do with the other side in MY OWN COUNTRY what the fuck has happened!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree I miss looking at Repug&#8217;s as people that are patriotic but have a different approach to helping this country than the Dem&#8217;s.  It was not long ago that I had no beef with Repug&#8217;s even though I did not agree with what they thought were good policies we still lived and died TOGETHER in my opinion.  I no longer feel that way, now if someone tells me they are a Repug I walk away and never speak to them again.  I no longer have any sense of humour about it.  After Katrina I stopped telling myself they were misled by talk radio and Fox News and began to see them as Collaborators to this criminal administration.  I hate what has happened to this country.  Five years ago Repug or Dem I did not care although I voted Dem I looked at it as a disagreement of how to approach a common goal, now I see them as traitors to our nation and its founding ideas.  I want to be able to shake a Repug&#8217;s hand again without wanting to spit in their face for supporting a facist regieme.  I want to be able to trust my fellow citizens again to not take my rights because 1)they dont agree 2) it doesnt affect them.  &#8220;If your neighbors house is on fire then yours is not safe either.&#8221;  Please Republicans everywhere, please vote for people that will give us our rights back and investigate all the questionable things that have been done in the last 5 years.  Whether a Dem or an Independant or just not voting at all.  We only need one good election for the investigations to take place and if the Neo-cons did nothing wrong fine I just want someone to please god check after that vote Republican all you want.  If not I will make sure to not cross the street to piss on a Repug if they were on fire.  I feel I have more in common now with citizens all over this world than I do with the other side in MY OWN COUNTRY what the fuck has happened!</p>
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		<title>By: Czech Air</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2892</link>
		<author>Czech Air</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2892</guid>
					<description>I agree... Bloc Quebecois all the way!</description>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2895</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2895</guid>
					<description>I do agree with some points.

I do want to be able to shake a Republican's hand without feeling like they are selling out to the fringe sector of their party.

But I do have Republicans in my family so I do have hope for them, and for America.

I used to wonder WTF has happened to America but I think it is obvious:  those who have money influence the outcome of elections.

They passed laws to limit campaign finance...but both political parties just moved their unlimited funding into 527s.

That is also why they skewered Howard Dean and his money-making internet machine.  It wasn't supposed to be possible to raise $15 MILLION dollars without kow-towing to corporate thugs, but he did it.  They smoked his ass for it and turned him into a good little soldier working as the head of the Democrat party...as long as he doesn't open his mouth.

The key to fix politics in America is by removing the corporate money from the politics.

It will not likely happen in our lifetime, but if we keep that as a goal, if we tell our children and our children's children that it is unethical and anti-American to allow those with the money to tell those without the money how things are going to run...then someday things might change.

Thus...then the TV ads are too negative, when things seem at thier worst, when it looks like nothing good can happen and our boys are getting beat down, above all else we need to remember:

STAY ON TARGET!

And that is how "19 Things the Republicans Want You to Forget" was born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with some points.</p>
<p>I do want to be able to shake a Republican&#8217;s hand without feeling like they are selling out to the fringe sector of their party.</p>
<p>But I do have Republicans in my family so I do have hope for them, and for America.</p>
<p>I used to wonder WTF has happened to America but I think it is obvious:  those who have money influence the outcome of elections.</p>
<p>They passed laws to limit campaign finance&#8230;but both political parties just moved their unlimited funding into 527s.</p>
<p>That is also why they skewered Howard Dean and his money-making internet machine.  It wasn&#8217;t supposed to be possible to raise $15 MILLION dollars without kow-towing to corporate thugs, but he did it.  They smoked his ass for it and turned him into a good little soldier working as the head of the Democrat party&#8230;as long as he doesn&#8217;t open his mouth.</p>
<p>The key to fix politics in America is by removing the corporate money from the politics.</p>
<p>It will not likely happen in our lifetime, but if we keep that as a goal, if we tell our children and our children&#8217;s children that it is unethical and anti-American to allow those with the money to tell those without the money how things are going to run&#8230;then someday things might change.</p>
<p>Thus&#8230;then the TV ads are too negative, when things seem at thier worst, when it looks like nothing good can happen and our boys are getting beat down, above all else we need to remember:</p>
<p>STAY ON TARGET!</p>
<p>And that is how &#8220;19 Things the Republicans Want You to Forget&#8221; was born.</p>
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		<title>By: Freshcoffee</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2896</link>
		<author>Freshcoffee</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2896</guid>
					<description>I agree with some of these statements, but like any lefty post, the "facts" are being as misconstrued as possible to make the GOP look bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of these statements, but like any lefty post, the &#8220;facts&#8221; are being as misconstrued as possible to make the GOP look bad.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2898</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2898</guid>
					<description>I voted for Jesse Ventura.

As far as I am concerned, Republicans and Democrats both need to clean house.

That being said, it will be better for America to toss the neo-con thugs out on their asses before it's too late.

It is damn near too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Jesse Ventura.</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned, Republicans and Democrats both need to clean house.</p>
<p>That being said, it will be better for America to toss the neo-con thugs out on their asses before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>It is damn near too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2899</link>
		<author>Scott</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2899</guid>
					<description>What an idiotic post of tasteless Democrat propaganda and half have no basis in fact.  For starters, its all opinion.  Secondly, Democrats have started wars since WW2.  Heck, WW2 was started by a Democrat. 

My only real issue as well as most Americans with the Republicans are that they are being too soft on our enemies and not striking them hard enough.

Iraq yellow cake was found in Iraq.
For every individual in the GOP that misbehaves I can find several in the DNC just as bad or worse.  Democrats won't be fixing the job overseas issue.

US out of UN
UN out of US

NeoCons &#62; NeoLibs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an idiotic post of tasteless Democrat propaganda and half have no basis in fact.  For starters, its all opinion.  Secondly, Democrats have started wars since WW2.  Heck, WW2 was started by a Democrat. </p>
<p>My only real issue as well as most Americans with the Republicans are that they are being too soft on our enemies and not striking them hard enough.</p>
<p>Iraq yellow cake was found in Iraq.<br />
For every individual in the GOP that misbehaves I can find several in the DNC just as bad or worse.  Democrats won&#8217;t be fixing the job overseas issue.</p>
<p>US out of UN<br />
UN out of US</p>
<p>NeoCons &gt; NeoLibs</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2900</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2900</guid>
					<description>If it is idiotic, then why did you respond?

Follow the links.  I sourced my statements!

Pull your head out President Bush's ass and you might see the light.

If you post more neo-con thug B.S, I will be forced to delete your gibberish.

Now go play nice and STFU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is idiotic, then why did you respond?</p>
<p>Follow the links.  I sourced my statements!</p>
<p>Pull your head out President Bush&#8217;s ass and you might see the light.</p>
<p>If you post more neo-con thug B.S, I will be forced to delete your gibberish.</p>
<p>Now go play nice and STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2901</link>
		<author>Scott</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2901</guid>
					<description>I don't care if you sourced anything.  Only a moron would allow a post like this to sway their vote decision or try to suggest that human failings are somehow distinct to people based on their political party affiliation.  As corrupt as the GOP is, it still doesn't come close to that of the DNC.

Big man, with your big threats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if you sourced anything.  Only a moron would allow a post like this to sway their vote decision or try to suggest that human failings are somehow distinct to people based on their political party affiliation.  As corrupt as the GOP is, it still doesn&#8217;t come close to that of the DNC.</p>
<p>Big man, with your big threats.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2902</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2902</guid>
					<description>You apparently did care as you claimed it was all opinion.  If it were all opinion, I would not have been able to source the statements.  YOUR statements were 100% opinion and you did not qualify or prove even one thing you said.  You just posted a bunch of baseless rhetoric.

I am not threatening anything other than deleting your B.S. neo-con thug, intimidation tactics propaganda.

You can't silence me.

The truthiness is out there.

We can still be friends after the bums get tossed on November 7th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You apparently did care as you claimed it was all opinion.  If it were all opinion, I would not have been able to source the statements.  YOUR statements were 100% opinion and you did not qualify or prove even one thing you said.  You just posted a bunch of baseless rhetoric.</p>
<p>I am not threatening anything other than deleting your B.S. neo-con thug, intimidation tactics propaganda.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t silence me.</p>
<p>The truthiness is out there.</p>
<p>We can still be friends after the bums get tossed on November 7th.</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2905</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2905</guid>
					<description>I warned you Scott.  You are not authroized to hijack this post.

Your rhetoric has been deleted.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2908</link>
		<author>Scott</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2908</guid>
					<description>lawl, you're such a n00b.</description>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2909</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2909</guid>
					<description>I am probably older than you.  But you would probably pwn me in WSG.</description>
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		<title>By: MPR Master Debaters &#8212; eightandfive Archive</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2910</link>
		<author>MPR Master Debaters &#8212; eightandfive Archive</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 04:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2910</guid>
					<description>[...] When you go to the polls on November 7th, STAY ON TARGET! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: So I am Homer Simpson&#8230; &#171; The Other DALIEU Blog</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2911</link>
		<author>So I am Homer Simpson&#8230; &#171; The Other DALIEU Blog</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2911</guid>
					<description>[...] 19 things Republicans want you to forget [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ridza</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2912</link>
		<author>Ridza</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2912</guid>
					<description>hahaha a democrat started WW2 did he. Bloody Hitler. I always knew the nazi party was a front.</description>
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		<title>By: Lets Vote the Bastards Out! &#8212; eightandfive Archive</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2920</link>
		<author>Lets Vote the Bastards Out! &#8212; eightandfive Archive</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2920</guid>
					<description>[...] In this country we have the right to dissent We have the right to shout So Stay On Target, and get to the polls LETS VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In this country we have the right to dissent We have the right to shout So Stay On Target, and get to the polls LETS VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT! [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Neo-Con Thugs were here.</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2921</link>
		<author>Neo-Con Thugs were here.</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2921</guid>
					<description>How to get your coment deleted----
1) Use a fake e-mail address.
2) Attempt to hijack this comment thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to get your coment deleted&#8212;-<br />
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2923</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2923</guid>
					<description>ATTENTION NEO-CON COMMENT POSTERS:

If you attempt to be vulgar, insult me, or try in any way to hi-jack the post threads, your comment will be deleted without warning.

If you do not have the balls to provide a provide a valid e-mail address, your comment will be deleted without warning.

So stop your whining about my deletions and start being honest.

If you want to spout neo-con rhetoric across the internet, go create your own blog...because you are not welcome to do it here.

That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATTENTION NEO-CON COMMENT POSTERS:</p>
<p>If you attempt to be vulgar, insult me, or try in any way to hi-jack the post threads, your comment will be deleted without warning.</p>
<p>If you do not have the balls to provide a provide a valid e-mail address, your comment will be deleted without warning.</p>
<p>So stop your whining about my deletions and start being honest.</p>
<p>If you want to spout neo-con rhetoric across the internet, go create your own blog&#8230;because you are not welcome to do it here.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: jrt</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2925</link>
		<author>jrt</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2925</guid>
					<description>"Republicans want you to forget that fuel costs have doubled since 2000, but your income has not."

I encourage you to invest some time in studying even the most basic principles of economic theory. I would start by looking at the basic principles of Supply and Demand which offer an explanation for the increase in fuel costs due to the lack of supply caused by the destruction of oil rigs by natural disasters and the ridiculous environmental taxes placed on businesses that render them inefficient and influence their output. It seems like even though you claim to be "educated" your pulling sources from 3rd party web sites which can be severely biased and backed up with made up facts. Wikipedia is not a credible website.If your interested in economics I recommend Thomas Sowell's book "Basic Economics."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Republicans want you to forget that fuel costs have doubled since 2000, but your income has not.&#8221;</p>
<p>I encourage you to invest some time in studying even the most basic principles of economic theory. I would start by looking at the basic principles of Supply and Demand which offer an explanation for the increase in fuel costs due to the lack of supply caused by the destruction of oil rigs by natural disasters and the ridiculous environmental taxes placed on businesses that render them inefficient and influence their output. It seems like even though you claim to be &#8220;educated&#8221; your pulling sources from 3rd party web sites which can be severely biased and backed up with made up facts. Wikipedia is not a credible website.If your interested in economics I recommend Thomas Sowell&#8217;s book &#8220;Basic Economics.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bongo</title>
		<link>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2926</link>
		<author>bongo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eightandfive.com/2006/11/02/stay-on-target/#comment-2926</guid>
					<description>Thanks for your response.  Mr. Sowell's book can be ordered through &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that Wikipedia is only as credible as its users.  At the time the links to Wikipedia  (5 of my 21 links) were created, they did not link to any intentionally false information.

I never claimed to be educated.

I never claimed to be anything.  In fact, the only claim I have made regarding politics is that this cycle, I have given money to only one candidate:  &lt;a href="http://www.votefitzgerald.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;Robert Fitzgerald&lt;/a&gt;.

I merely cited my sources for my bullet points.

BTW, the "Fuel Costs" link does not go to a Wikipedia link, rather, it goes to a website from the Department of